Discover Game Misconduct: Injury, Fandom, and the Business of Sport by Nathan Kalman-Lamb.
Start reading today and explore ideas, insights, and experiences that stay with you.
Overview:
We have made it easy for you to find a PDF Ebooks without any digging. And by having access to our ebooks online or by storing it on your computer, you have convenient answers with Case Studies in Organizational Behavior and Theory for Health Care: Game Misconduct: Injury, Fandom, and the Business of Sport ,To get started finding Case Studies in Organizational Behavior and Theory for Health Care:Game Misconduct: Injury, Fandom, and the Business of Sport, you are right to find our website which has a comprehensive collection of manuals listed.
Our library is the biggest of these that have literally hundreds of thousands of different products represented.
Read full description
Advertisement
Details & Genres
Non FictionSportsHockeyGenre PoliticsPopular Culture2025 ReadsDelete
After spending years working in the corporate world, Nathan Kalman-Lamb finally decided to pursue a lifelong passion for writing. They currently reside in a quiet suburb where they spend most of their time outlining new stories, reading extensively, and occasionally attempting to bake.
Such a great read. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Would probably read it again at some point.
Michael JonesAugust 13, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Glad I picked this up.
Sponsored Content
George CruzJanuary 01, 2024
Such a great read. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Will be looking for more from this author.
Steven ClarkSeptember 21, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Ryan WrightJune 24, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. A solid 5/5 for me.
Sharon RamirezFebruary 22, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Robert LeeFebruary 27, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Worth the time and money.
Thomas YoungDecember 01, 2024
It was just alright. It felt a bit repetitive in the middle. Could have been shorter. It's fine if you have nothing else to read.
Kenneth WrightNovember 25, 2024
It was just alright. Some parts were interesting, while others were a bit of a slog to get through. A generous 3 stars.
Patricia HillApril 13, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Would probably read it again at some point.
Jennifer TaylorNovember 03, 2024
I have mixed feelings about this one. The writing was fine, but I didn't feel very connected to the characters. They felt a bit flat. Might work better for someone else, just wasn't completely for me.
Nicholas HarrisJuly 02, 2025
An average read for me. Some parts were interesting, while others were a bit of a slog to get through. Just right down the middle.
Anthony LopezMarch 11, 2025
A very satisfying read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Would probably read it again at some point.
Edward RobinsonFebruary 20, 2025
Good, but not quite perfect. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. Still a good book.
Ryan GreenDecember 27, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Glad I picked this up.
Barbara AllenDecember 14, 2024
I have mixed feelings about this one. It felt a bit repetitive in the middle. Could have been shorter. Might work better for someone else, just wasn't completely for me.
Susan GonzalezJune 02, 2024
An average read for me. It had some good moments, but the overall plot felt a bit disjointed in the second half. Might work better for someone else, just wasn't completely for me.
Matthew TurnerMarch 14, 2025
A very satisfying read. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Worth the time and money.
Mark WilsonApril 10, 2024
I liked it for the most part. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Still a good book.
Kevin RobertsApril 28, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Enjoyable weekend read.
Patricia EvansSeptember 26, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Still a good book.
Mary JonesSeptember 04, 2024
Pretty good overall. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Not bad at all.
Barbara AndersonAugust 30, 2025
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Would probably read it again at some point.
Nicholas MartinezDecember 12, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Glad I picked this up.
Gary MillerDecember 25, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Would probably read it again at some point.
Gary KingFebruary 02, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Gary ParkerDecember 02, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Mary DavisJune 24, 2025
I liked it for the most part. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Not bad at all.
Nancy MillerDecember 10, 2024
A very satisfying read. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Worth the time and money.
Nicholas ScottMay 18, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Worth the time and money.
Cynthia RobertsFebruary 15, 2024
Pretty good overall. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. A solid 4 stars from me.
Jessica WilliamsMarch 26, 2025
Really enjoyed this one. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Kenneth ReyesApril 02, 2024
A very satisfying read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Glad I picked this up.
Mark ClarkApril 23, 2025
Not bad, but not my favorite. The pacing was a bit slow and I found myself skimming a few pages. It wasn't terrible, just okay. Probably won't read it again, but it was an okay way to pass the time.
Dorothy TurnerFebruary 25, 2025
Not bad, but not my favorite. It had some good moments, but the overall plot felt a bit disjointed in the second half. It's fine if you have nothing else to read.
Melissa KingJanuary 21, 2025
An average read for me. Some parts were interesting, while others were a bit of a slog to get through. Just right down the middle.
Mary JacksonJuly 17, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Would probably read it again at some point.
Mary JacksonMarch 24, 2025
It was just alright. It felt a bit repetitive in the middle. Could have been shorter. Just right down the middle.
Steven BakerJanuary 18, 2025
A very satisfying read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. A solid 5/5 for me.
Brian MooreDecember 14, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Would probably read it again at some point.
Jessica HallJuly 27, 2025
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Enjoyable weekend read.
Jacob HallMay 29, 2025
Really enjoyed this one. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Glad I picked this up.
Brian MooreJune 07, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. A solid 5/5 for me.
Michelle RiveraJuly 10, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. A solid 5/5 for me.
Anthony EdwardsMarch 18, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Still a good book.
Susan SanchezDecember 11, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. A solid 5/5 for me.
Emily WilsonJanuary 05, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Worth the time and money.
Joseph NelsonMarch 02, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Would probably read it again at some point.
John FloresJanuary 13, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Sarah RiveraMarch 25, 2024
Such a great read. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Amanda YoungFebruary 09, 2024
Such a great read. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. A solid 5/5 for me.
Ashley BakerJune 11, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Will be looking for more from this author.
Amanda EvansNovember 07, 2024
A very satisfying read. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Michelle RiveraJanuary 30, 2025
I have mixed feelings about this one. It had some good moments, but the overall plot felt a bit disjointed in the second half. It's fine if you have nothing else to read.
Carol MitchellNovember 07, 2024
I liked it for the most part. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Still a good book.
Nicholas FloresMay 30, 2024
A solid read. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Elizabeth ThomasNovember 20, 2024
Pretty good overall. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. Enjoyable weekend read.
Joseph MitchellDecember 09, 2025
Good, but not quite perfect. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Not bad at all.
Emily JacksonDecember 02, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Will be looking for more from this author.
William CarterApril 09, 2025
A solid read. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. A solid 4 stars from me.
Nancy HernandezApril 09, 2025
Good, but not quite perfect. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. A solid 4 stars from me.
Sarah SanchezOctober 05, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
William CarterJuly 05, 2025
Really enjoyed this one. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Daniel DavisNovember 05, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Worth the time and money.
John MartinMarch 16, 2024
A solid read. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. Enjoyable weekend read.
Rebecca CollinsFebruary 27, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Glad I picked this up.
Sandra RobinsonJanuary 31, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Donald KingJanuary 16, 2024
Such a great read. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Would probably read it again at some point.
Jennifer HernandezJanuary 09, 2024
An average read for me. It felt a bit repetitive in the middle. Could have been shorter. Just right down the middle.
Susan CampbellMay 23, 2024
Such a great read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Worth the time and money.
Edward WalkerApril 12, 2025
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Worth the time and money.
Mary DavisJune 04, 2025
Pretty good overall. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. Still a good book.
Barbara ThompsonDecember 15, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Will be looking for more from this author.
Amanda JonesJuly 06, 2025
Such a great read. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. A solid 5/5 for me.
Nancy WilsonOctober 28, 2025
A very satisfying read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. A solid 5/5 for me.
Ryan GreenJune 09, 2025
Good, but not quite perfect. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Matthew HallApril 23, 2024
A very satisfying read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Amanda BakerNovember 19, 2024
Finished it in a couple of days. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Glad I picked this up.
Joseph LewisMarch 16, 2025
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Still a good book.
Daniel WilliamsMarch 05, 2024
I liked it for the most part. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Enjoyable weekend read.
Kevin PhillipsJuly 21, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Enjoyable weekend read.
Kevin RobertsMay 22, 2024
I liked it for the most part. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. Not bad at all.
Margaret WhiteJune 27, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Worth the time and money.
Kenneth YoungMay 03, 2024
Pretty good overall. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Still a good book.
Barbara RobinsonMay 25, 2025
Such a great read. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Brian MooreMay 10, 2025
I liked it for the most part. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Enjoyable weekend read.
Patricia DiazMay 21, 2025
A solid read. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Still a good book.
Nancy AndersonAugust 31, 2025
It was okay. The pacing was a bit slow and I found myself skimming a few pages. It wasn't terrible, just okay. Probably won't read it again, but it was an okay way to pass the time.
Betty RobinsonNovember 23, 2025
Not bad, but not my favorite. It felt a bit repetitive in the middle. Could have been shorter. A generous 3 stars.
Donald PhillipsAugust 05, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Kimberly LeeSeptember 01, 2025
An average read for me. The pacing was a bit slow and I found myself skimming a few pages. It wasn't terrible, just okay. Just right down the middle.
Edward RobinsonDecember 24, 2024
A solid read. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Michelle JohnsonMarch 04, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Would probably read it again at some point.
Deborah AllenFebruary 05, 2025
Good, but not quite perfect. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. Still a good book.
Mark MartinezAugust 21, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Worth the time and money.
Rebecca FloresApril 23, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Glad I picked this up.
Kenneth GreenJune 21, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Would probably read it again at some point.
Amanda RiveraJanuary 07, 2024
Such a great read. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Will be looking for more from this author.
Robert RodriguezAugust 06, 2025
Pretty good overall. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Jacob MooreApril 16, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Worth the time and money.
Deborah AllenNovember 26, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Worth the time and money.
Thomas AdamsDecember 14, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Would probably read it again at some point.
Brian MooreApril 13, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Not bad at all.
Patricia EvansJune 07, 2025
Really enjoyed this one. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. A solid 5/5 for me.
Kimberly ClarkAugust 16, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Glad I picked this up.
Mark RobinsonJune 17, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. Enjoyable weekend read.
Betty RobinsonSeptember 14, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Would probably read it again at some point.
George CarterOctober 13, 2024
I liked it for the most part. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Enjoyable weekend read.
Mary YoungSeptember 21, 2024
A very satisfying read. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Paul RobertsMay 15, 2024
A solid read. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. A solid 4 stars from me.
Thomas CollinsJanuary 21, 2024
A solid read. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. A solid 4 stars from me.
Richard HillNovember 17, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. A solid 5/5 for me.
Robert PerezSeptember 07, 2025
An average read for me. It had some good moments, but the overall plot felt a bit disjointed in the second half. Probably won't read it again, but it was an okay way to pass the time.
Robert RamirezNovember 04, 2025
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Worth the time and money.
Mary YoungMarch 13, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Glad I picked this up.
Jessica ReyesJuly 10, 2025
I liked it for the most part. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Not bad at all.
Kenneth AndersonSeptember 01, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Worth the time and money.
Jessica RodriguezMarch 05, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Worth the time and money.
Barbara NguyenJuly 03, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Would probably read it again at some point.
Sarah TorresApril 28, 2025
Good, but not quite perfect. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Nancy HernandezSeptember 16, 2025
I liked it for the most part. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Still a good book.
Joseph CollinsSeptember 24, 2025
Such a great read. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Will be looking for more from this author.
Sarah TorresJanuary 06, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Worth the time and money.
Joseph ScottNovember 10, 2025
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Still a good book.
Susan CampbellJune 22, 2024
I liked it for the most part. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. A solid 4 stars from me.
George PerezJanuary 12, 2025
Pretty good overall. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Still a good book.
Sandra PhillipsSeptember 21, 2025
Pretty good overall. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. Enjoyable weekend read.
Jennifer ReyesJuly 18, 2025
Good, but not quite perfect. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Not bad at all.
Dorothy FloresJanuary 26, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Glad I picked this up.
Paul CampbellSeptember 23, 2024
A very satisfying read. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
George CollinsMarch 07, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Nancy AndersonAugust 18, 2025
A very satisfying read. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Worth the time and money.
Nancy WilsonNovember 23, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Glad I picked this up.
Gary RodriguezMay 19, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Will be looking for more from this author.
Kevin AndersonDecember 10, 2024
Pretty good overall. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
James HillFebruary 17, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. A solid 5/5 for me.
Joseph CruzJanuary 11, 2025
Good, but not quite perfect. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Sarah WrightApril 13, 2024
I liked it for the most part. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Not bad at all.
Kevin PhillipsMay 11, 2025
I liked it for the most part. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. A solid 4 stars from me.
Sarah ClarkJune 05, 2024
Such a great read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. A solid 5/5 for me.
Mark WilsonDecember 08, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Will be looking for more from this author.
Paul CampbellOctober 09, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Enjoyable weekend read.
William WilsonFebruary 17, 2025
Such a great read. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Would probably read it again at some point.
Michelle WhiteAugust 05, 2024
Such a great read. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Linda HarrisMay 01, 2025
A solid read. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Laura FloresJanuary 17, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Would probably read it again at some point.
Sandra GomezDecember 29, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Enjoyable weekend read.
Donald KingMay 12, 2025
I liked it for the most part. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Still a good book.
Anthony EdwardsAugust 03, 2025
Pretty good overall. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. A solid 4 stars from me.
Patricia EvansSeptember 15, 2025
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Glad I picked this up.