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John Zogby is a writer and avid reader based in the Pacific Northwest. Before pursuing writing full-time, they spent over a decade working in education. When not working on their next book, John Zogby can usually be found hiking with their dog or trying out new coffee shops in their neighborhood.
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. Not bad at all.
Sandra TaylorNovember 09, 2024
Pretty good overall. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Enjoyable weekend read.
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Daniel TurnerDecember 14, 2025
A very satisfying read. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Worth the time and money.
Nicholas WrightMay 21, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Glad I picked this up.
Sandra GarciaAugust 14, 2025
It was just alright. The writing was fine, but I didn't feel very connected to the characters. They felt a bit flat. A generous 3 stars.
Richard ThomasJanuary 22, 2025
Pretty good overall. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Still a good book.
Daniel MartinApril 12, 2024
I liked it for the most part. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Emily GarciaJanuary 06, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Glad I picked this up.
Kenneth LopezNovember 02, 2024
I liked it for the most part. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Still a good book.
Deborah SmithDecember 19, 2024
Finished it in a couple of days. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Worth the time and money.
Elizabeth MartinJanuary 15, 2025
Really enjoyed this one. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Will be looking for more from this author.
Mark WalkerDecember 08, 2025
A very satisfying read. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. A solid 5/5 for me.
Laura HillMarch 31, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Glad I picked this up.
Emily WrightMay 12, 2025
Really enjoyed this one. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Would probably read it again at some point.
Steven MartinAugust 26, 2025
A very satisfying read. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Glad I picked this up.
Karen JonesJune 10, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Would probably read it again at some point.
Edward WrightJanuary 10, 2024
A very satisfying read. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Glad I picked this up.
George WrightMay 05, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. A solid 4 stars from me.
Kimberly MillerDecember 04, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. A solid 5/5 for me.
John AndersonDecember 22, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. A solid 5/5 for me.
Laura SmithApril 30, 2024
An average read for me. The pacing was a bit slow and I found myself skimming a few pages. It wasn't terrible, just okay. A generous 3 stars.
Daniel HernandezNovember 07, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. A solid 5/5 for me.
Eric DiazJanuary 07, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. Still a good book.
Steven PerezDecember 27, 2025
Such a great read. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Glad I picked this up.
Charles LeeOctober 06, 2025
Pretty good overall. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Still a good book.
Andrew HillNovember 23, 2024
A solid read. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Patricia JonesFebruary 05, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. A solid 5/5 for me.
Brian CruzMay 28, 2025
Pretty good overall. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Not bad at all.
Christopher CarterMay 27, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Worth the time and money.
Daniel TurnerMarch 14, 2025
A solid read. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Still a good book.
Rebecca WilliamsAugust 07, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. A solid 4 stars from me.
Donald ScottMarch 25, 2024
Finished it in a couple of days. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Sarah EdwardsNovember 11, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Will be looking for more from this author.
Gary DavisAugust 27, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. A solid 4 stars from me.
Edward NelsonMarch 23, 2024
A very satisfying read. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Worth the time and money.
Robert MooreOctober 27, 2024
Such a great read. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Worth the time and money.
Kenneth KingMay 12, 2024
A solid read. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Ashley CarterMay 24, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Enjoyable weekend read.
Brian ThompsonJanuary 07, 2025
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Will be looking for more from this author.
Christopher NguyenMay 31, 2025
Not bad, but not my favorite. Some parts were interesting, while others were a bit of a slog to get through. Probably won't read it again, but it was an okay way to pass the time.
John BrownNovember 24, 2024
Such a great read. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Worth the time and money.
Emily DiazApril 22, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Ryan RiveraMay 14, 2024
Finished it in a couple of days. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Sharon AdamsFebruary 23, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Would probably read it again at some point.
Linda WilliamsJune 29, 2024
I liked it for the most part. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. Not bad at all.
Christopher NguyenFebruary 19, 2024
Pretty good overall. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. Enjoyable weekend read.
Robert MooreAugust 04, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. A solid 5/5 for me.
Paul HillDecember 22, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Glad I picked this up.
Richard ThomasMay 13, 2024
Such a great read. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Glad I picked this up.
Steven CarterJanuary 20, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Would probably read it again at some point.
David AndersonDecember 05, 2025
I liked it for the most part. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Still a good book.
Sarah LopezOctober 31, 2024
An average read for me. The pacing was a bit slow and I found myself skimming a few pages. It wasn't terrible, just okay. Might work better for someone else, just wasn't completely for me.
Donna ThomasAugust 10, 2025
A solid read. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Steven GomezJuly 27, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. A solid 5/5 for me.
Richard NguyenJuly 25, 2025
A very satisfying read. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. A solid 5/5 for me.
Sandra MooreSeptember 08, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Will be looking for more from this author.
Anthony HillJanuary 28, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. A solid 4 stars from me.
Richard JonesNovember 28, 2025
Pretty good overall. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Still a good book.
Barbara EdwardsOctober 02, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Dorothy DavisMarch 28, 2025
Pretty good overall. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Enjoyable weekend read.
Dorothy DavisJune 26, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Ashley JacksonMarch 17, 2024
Pretty good overall. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. A solid 4 stars from me.
Christopher KingApril 23, 2024
Such a great read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. A solid 5/5 for me.
George SmithJanuary 17, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Would probably read it again at some point.
Joshua ParkerOctober 16, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. A solid 4 stars from me.
Ryan ThompsonMarch 31, 2025
Really enjoyed this one. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Will be looking for more from this author.
Thomas MitchellOctober 29, 2024
Not bad, but not my favorite. It felt a bit repetitive in the middle. Could have been shorter. Probably won't read it again, but it was an okay way to pass the time.
William LeeOctober 16, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Glad I picked this up.
George WilsonAugust 01, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Glad I picked this up.
Mary MartinFebruary 09, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. A solid 4 stars from me.
Charles AndersonAugust 10, 2024
Finished it in a couple of days. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Will be looking for more from this author.
Sarah TaylorJune 08, 2024
A very satisfying read. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Glad I picked this up.
Christopher GarciaSeptember 17, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Amanda WrightNovember 30, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Will be looking for more from this author.
Deborah SmithOctober 17, 2024
A very satisfying read. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. A solid 5/5 for me.
Rebecca DavisDecember 29, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Nicholas MartinezJanuary 09, 2025
A very satisfying read. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Will be looking for more from this author.
Robert MooreApril 29, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Nicholas TaylorMarch 01, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Worth the time and money.
Eric EdwardsJune 12, 2024
I liked it for the most part. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. Enjoyable weekend read.
Gary DavisJuly 03, 2025
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Still a good book.
Mary PhillipsSeptember 10, 2024
A very satisfying read. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. A solid 5/5 for me.
Kimberly MillerMarch 31, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Would probably read it again at some point.
Carol BakerDecember 01, 2025
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. A solid 4 stars from me.
James LewisJuly 27, 2025
Pretty good overall. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Enjoyable weekend read.
Paul KingMarch 07, 2025
A very satisfying read. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Mark PhillipsMarch 28, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Would probably read it again at some point.
George AllenApril 19, 2025
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Worth the time and money.
William MitchellJanuary 28, 2025
A solid read. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Sandra PerezMarch 11, 2024
I liked it for the most part. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. A solid 4 stars from me.
Margaret AllenJanuary 07, 2024
A solid read. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Enjoyable weekend read.
Susan PhillipsAugust 01, 2024
I liked it for the most part. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Not bad at all.
Sarah TaylorMarch 16, 2025
It was okay. The pacing was a bit slow and I found myself skimming a few pages. It wasn't terrible, just okay. Just right down the middle.
Brian HallJanuary 18, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Will be looking for more from this author.
Deborah WilliamsApril 28, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Glad I picked this up.
Michael PhillipsDecember 09, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Worth the time and money.
Sarah MartinezApril 29, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Will be looking for more from this author.
Emily TurnerNovember 25, 2025
A solid read. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Still a good book.
Kimberly TorresNovember 09, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Will be looking for more from this author.
Andrew HillMarch 11, 2025
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Susan BakerMarch 12, 2025
I have mixed feelings about this one. Some parts were interesting, while others were a bit of a slog to get through. Might work better for someone else, just wasn't completely for me.
Thomas BrownDecember 19, 2025
Really enjoyed this one. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. A solid 5/5 for me.
Susan GonzalezFebruary 15, 2024
Such a great read. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Glad I picked this up.
Sandra TaylorMay 27, 2025
Not bad, but not my favorite. The writing was fine, but I didn't feel very connected to the characters. They felt a bit flat. A generous 3 stars.
Carol JohnsonJune 08, 2025
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. A solid 5/5 for me.
George ParkerDecember 11, 2024
A solid read. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Still a good book.
Charles RodriguezNovember 17, 2025
Good, but not quite perfect. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Not bad at all.
Deborah MooreJuly 20, 2024
Such a great read. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. A solid 5/5 for me.
Amanda BakerMay 02, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Worth the time and money.
Jacob FloresJuly 12, 2025
I liked it for the most part. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. Still a good book.
Joseph LopezAugust 02, 2024
Finished it in a couple of days. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Glad I picked this up.
Donna FloresOctober 21, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. A solid 5/5 for me.
Michelle RiveraJuly 11, 2025
Pretty good overall. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Robert LewisDecember 12, 2025
A solid read. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. A solid 4 stars from me.
Andrew ParkerMay 17, 2024
Such a great read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Worth the time and money.
Anthony GonzalezApril 17, 2025
I have mixed feelings about this one. The pacing was a bit slow and I found myself skimming a few pages. It wasn't terrible, just okay. Just right down the middle.
Linda MillerOctober 12, 2025
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Susan BakerJune 26, 2024
It was just alright. Some parts were interesting, while others were a bit of a slog to get through. Might work better for someone else, just wasn't completely for me.
Charles TurnerNovember 03, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. Enjoyable weekend read.
Eric AllenJuly 25, 2024
Such a great read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Glad I picked this up.
Steven AllenMarch 28, 2025
Such a great read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. A solid 5/5 for me.
Sandra GreenOctober 06, 2025
Not bad, but not my favorite. The writing was fine, but I didn't feel very connected to the characters. They felt a bit flat. It's fine if you have nothing else to read.
Matthew PhillipsNovember 22, 2024
It was just alright. It felt a bit repetitive in the middle. Could have been shorter. It's fine if you have nothing else to read.
Steven MillerNovember 29, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. A solid 4 stars from me.
Betty ClarkJanuary 13, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. A solid 5/5 for me.
William LeeOctober 01, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. A solid 5/5 for me.
Michael JacksonNovember 16, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Carol PerezMay 23, 2024
I have mixed feelings about this one. Some parts were interesting, while others were a bit of a slog to get through. A generous 3 stars.
Cynthia WilsonDecember 07, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. A solid 4 stars from me.
Anthony AllenNovember 14, 2024
Pretty good overall. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Not bad at all.
Amanda CarterMay 16, 2024
A very satisfying read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Will be looking for more from this author.
Sandra GreenFebruary 18, 2025
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Worth the time and money.
Stephanie HillOctober 19, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Glad I picked this up.
Patricia JonesJanuary 20, 2025
A very satisfying read. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Glad I picked this up.
Gary JohnsonMay 14, 2024
A very satisfying read. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Glad I picked this up.
Joseph CarterAugust 23, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Will be looking for more from this author.
Karen BakerJuly 06, 2025
Good, but not quite perfect. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. Still a good book.
Eric GarciaJanuary 16, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Brian HallAugust 29, 2024
Pretty good overall. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Enjoyable weekend read.
Karen BakerOctober 19, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Charles HallSeptember 06, 2025
A solid read. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Sandra ScottApril 13, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. A solid 5/5 for me.
David ThomasFebruary 06, 2025
Really enjoyed this one. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Sharon HallNovember 21, 2025
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Still a good book.
Ryan RiveraAugust 26, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. Still a good book.
Laura HillJanuary 16, 2025
A very satisfying read. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Would probably read it again at some point.
Kimberly RamirezFebruary 05, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Robert LewisFebruary 18, 2024
Finished it in a couple of days. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Paul CruzJanuary 30, 2025
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. Still a good book.
Jacob FloresNovember 02, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. A solid 5/5 for me.